i was thinking the other day that so far jw's and god have always needed or relied on "evil" to get items done or taken care of.
almost every bible prophecy and jw teaching would not exist without "evil".. let's take the prophecy of jesus for example, it would not have been fulfilled without evil.
when you think about it, he was a needed evil in order for prophecy to be fulfilled.
Viviane, I figured there was a shoe coming my way. Your use of condescending insults betrays an inability to simply address what is being discussed in a manner worthy of respect.
Your gruff manner detracts from your posts and thus your arguments. Perhaps we got off on the wrong foot, pun intended.
i was thinking the other day that so far jw's and god have always needed or relied on "evil" to get items done or taken care of.
almost every bible prophecy and jw teaching would not exist without "evil".. let's take the prophecy of jesus for example, it would not have been fulfilled without evil.
when you think about it, he was a needed evil in order for prophecy to be fulfilled.
Viviane: The fact that, when called out on your shameful dishonest behavior, is the first think you thought of, shows that you are indeed a typical Christian. Intellectually dishonest with threats of violence as your backup.
Dear lady I did not threaten you with violence. You are inventing something in your own head. Stop inventing what is not there!
i was thinking the other day that so far jw's and god have always needed or relied on "evil" to get items done or taken care of.
almost every bible prophecy and jw teaching would not exist without "evil".. let's take the prophecy of jesus for example, it would not have been fulfilled without evil.
when you think about it, he was a needed evil in order for prophecy to be fulfilled.
Depressed Soul, Jesus knew from the beginning who would betray him and who among his disciples did not believe. "From the beginning" is thought to mean from the time Judas became his disciple or chosen as an Apostle. Because Jesus knew the man's heart his course was set but not because he could not change but rather because he would not change. There is a big difference.
i was thinking the other day that so far jw's and god have always needed or relied on "evil" to get items done or taken care of.
almost every bible prophecy and jw teaching would not exist without "evil".. let's take the prophecy of jesus for example, it would not have been fulfilled without evil.
when you think about it, he was a needed evil in order for prophecy to be fulfilled.
Viviane: I implied no such thing. You made that assumption, incorrectly and now presume to have the arrogance to falsely claim I said something I never said nor implied and have the audacity and hubris to attempt to blame me for your error.You should be ashamed for accusing me of your error.
I enjoyed that, very entertaining. So, what's next? Are you going to pick up a shoe and throw it at me?
i was thinking the other day that so far jw's and god have always needed or relied on "evil" to get items done or taken care of.
almost every bible prophecy and jw teaching would not exist without "evil".. let's take the prophecy of jesus for example, it would not have been fulfilled without evil.
when you think about it, he was a needed evil in order for prophecy to be fulfilled.
i was thinking the other day that so far jw's and god have always needed or relied on "evil" to get items done or taken care of.
almost every bible prophecy and jw teaching would not exist without "evil".. let's take the prophecy of jesus for example, it would not have been fulfilled without evil.
when you think about it, he was a needed evil in order for prophecy to be fulfilled.
Depressed Soul, in the Bible very few individuals are personally predestined.
Thanks for starting an interesting thread.
Frank
i was thinking the other day that so far jw's and god have always needed or relied on "evil" to get items done or taken care of.
almost every bible prophecy and jw teaching would not exist without "evil".. let's take the prophecy of jesus for example, it would not have been fulfilled without evil.
when you think about it, he was a needed evil in order for prophecy to be fulfilled.
Viviane: Higher order mammals exhibit bully behavior and killing for pleasure also. We ARE members of the animal kingdom. We were just lucky enough to evolve large brains and opposable thumbs.
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Me: Surely you're not saying we are the only ones on earth with large brains and opposable thumbs. We're not.
Viviane: So, did I say that? If I didn't, I find it curious why you would bring up something I never said and then argue against it. It seems quite pointless.
It was directly implied. And yes, it is pointless. It is pointless to attempt to converse with someone who uses evasiveness to get out of a corner. Either we speak forthrightly or we speak not at all. I do not play word games.
i was thinking the other day that so far jw's and god have always needed or relied on "evil" to get items done or taken care of.
almost every bible prophecy and jw teaching would not exist without "evil".. let's take the prophecy of jesus for example, it would not have been fulfilled without evil.
when you think about it, he was a needed evil in order for prophecy to be fulfilled.
i was thinking the other day that so far jw's and god have always needed or relied on "evil" to get items done or taken care of.
almost every bible prophecy and jw teaching would not exist without "evil".. let's take the prophecy of jesus for example, it would not have been fulfilled without evil.
when you think about it, he was a needed evil in order for prophecy to be fulfilled.
Viviane: Higher order mammals exhibit bully behavior and killing for pleasure also. We ARE members of the animal kingdom. We were just lucky enough to evolve large brains and opposable thumbs.
I agree we are a family. We're made with similar physical systems and needs as the animals have and as a result we find ourselves to a degree able to understand them and if we so desire to empathize with them because we are a fleshly family with all living things on earth. Perhaps it's meant to help us maintain humility in the face of our exceptional abilities far above the animals.
As for any examples of bulling or killing for pleasure among the animals from what I've read for the most part that occurs when the animals are living in stressful conditions caused by their proximity to and/or mistreatment by people. Also, a degree of self-identification with the behavior can occur meaning we can "read" into the animal's behavior what we see in ourselves. We cannot read the animal's mind though.
We were just lucky enough to evolve large brains and opposable thumbs.
Surely you're not saying we are the only ones on earth with large brains and opposable thumbs. We're not.
i was thinking the other day that so far jw's and god have always needed or relied on "evil" to get items done or taken care of.
almost every bible prophecy and jw teaching would not exist without "evil".. let's take the prophecy of jesus for example, it would not have been fulfilled without evil.
when you think about it, he was a needed evil in order for prophecy to be fulfilled.
Depresssed Soul, the Bible, if you think about it, reflects real life. Yes, bad things happen in the Bible. Yes, God instructs or allows violence in a violent world. Jesus taught love of neighbor, loving our enemies, sharing what we have and so on. That though did not make violence go away.
What makes violence go away in our world today? Force. Laws and punishment for breaking laws. Good people are not violent. Violent people only know force. Why should it be surprising for God to do the same? To reward those doing good to their fellow man and to warn the violent they must change.
